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Showing posts with label Orlando Mass Shooting. Show all posts
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Wednesday, June 29, 2016

Comments Which Conservatives Block From Their Blogs For June 29, 2016

June 26

To Mika Edmondson and his talk/text blogpost on Blacks Lives Matter and how it compares with the Civil Rights Movement from the past. This appeared in the Gospel Coalition website.

Mika Edmondson's article has some good points as well as is in need of some correction. His clarification of what the name Black Lives Matter is excellent. His call to us to care and to act is necessary. Criticizing his efforts on those issues shows an ignorance of the hardships many Blacks must endure.


However, his comparisons between Black Lives Matter and the Civil Rights Movement of the 60s is wanting because simplifies the movement to just the work of Martin Luther King and those who worked with him. Malcolm X, both when he opposed King and when he was more reconciled with his position worked for Civil Rights. Muhammad Ali worked for Civil Rights. Bobby Seale and the Black Panthers worked for Civil Rights. And those rioted in the streets in Watts and Chicago also worked for civil rights. See, the Civil Rights Movement was a mix and the tendency of some to reduce the Civil Rights Movement to what King and his compadres did might be due, IMO, to society's requirement that for victims to be worthy of recognition they must be at least relatively sinless. Otherwise, if they have too many faults, there is no need to change the status quo. This is certainly a possible explanation why the oppression of the Palestinians goes unabated.

One more criticism of Edmondson's work here revolves around perhaps his expected or hoped for reaction to his words. For if he expected a mass movement from the Reformed Christianity to come to the aid of those who still suffer from racism, he, IMO, will be sorely disappointed--though I hope I am wrong. The help today's Blacks need requires that the Church criticize the government and calls for political changes. This is something that goes part and parcel against much of Reformed Theology both from the past and the present.

Fortunately, some from Reformed Christianity are calling for the end of racism anyway. But King made it clear in his speech against the Vietnam War that to eradicate racism, we must consider people to be more important than the newest technology, profits, and property rights. And part of doing that includes the call for further political changes than just demanding racial equality. It requires that the Church call for economic justice as well.

Still, despite the above criticisms, all Christians, especially those from the various Reformed denominations, need to read or listen to Edmondson here. Much of he said is excellent and should be required listening/reading for religiously Conservative Christians today.

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To R. Scott Clark and his blogpost and his attempt to tie the Orlando shootings with Islam. This appeared in Heidelblog.

Should we go to Bill Maher to understand Christianity? If not, why are we relying on fellow Christians to understand Islam as Muslims interpret Islam? And this question especially applies when we listen to Christians who are political conservatives from Western countries. Such conservatives seem to forget Church history with its religious wars and dependence on Western Empires to spread through much of the world. They also seem to be just as ignorant of Western interventions in the Middle East that include conducting coups, supporting brutal dictators, supporting terrorists, conducting terrorist attacks, invading a nation, and supporting Israel's brutal occupation against the Palestinians.

Those religiously conservative Christians also seem to be ignorant of all the possible reasons why the attacker in the Orlando mass shooting did what he did. They opportunistically jump on Mateen's phone call pledging allegiance to ISIS but failing to do the minimal research that would tell them that Mateen claimed allegiance to or had connections with Islamic terrorist groups that opposed each other. In fact, the FBI did not have him on the terrorist watch list knowing the claims he made. These Christians also neglect to mention that Mateen was a disturbed person who had an early history of being preoccupied with sex and violence. In addition, Mateen is alleged to have abused one of his wives, to have a questionable sexual orientation, and to have taken steroids.

Likewise, Clark's view of Islam is skewed. There is certainly much violence and conquest and expansionism in Islam's history just as there is the same in the history of Christianity. But Islam isn't about violence or conquest; Islam is about establishing justice. Muhammad not only observed much injustice where he lived, he learned to associate it with polytheism. And despite that, he respected true Christians and Jews as people of the book--should note that he considered Christianity to be polytheistic because of its belief in the Trinity. True Christians and Jews, according to Muhammad, were those who had not sold out to materialism. His concern for justice does not justify the violence he practiced and promoted; but it does show Islam does not revolve around violence.

It was R.C. Sproul who observed that the vast majority of Muslims who live in the Orlando area, where he resides, are peaceful and good neighbors. Perhaps instead of going to religiously conservative Christians who have possible religious and/or political axes to grind with what Islam teaches, we should go to those Muslims who live in peace with us and ask them to interpret Islam.

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June 27

To the Imaginative Conservative Blog and its titling a speech given by Senator Ben Sasse the following: The Democrats Sit In: A Violation Of Principled Governance?. This appeared in the Imaginative Conservative Blog.

Besides the decontextualization of the historical purpose of the Senate and the opportunistic placing of the founding fathers on pedestals, this speech is neither here nor there. It does assume an authoritarian mantle of the Senate shepherding the people rather than listening to them. However, such was the original purpose of the Senate, to make government less accountable to the people in order to maintain the status quo for the benefit of those with wealth, which included quite a few of our founding fathers. After all, it was during the debate on term of a senator that Madison uttered the following (source for below quote is http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/yates.asp    ):

our government ought to secure the permanent interests of the country against innovation. Landholders ought to have a share in the government, to support these invaluable interests, and to balance and check the other. They ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority. The senate, therefore, ought to be this body; and to answer these purposes, they ought to have permanency and stability. Various have been the propositions; but my opinion is, the longer they continue in office, the better will these views be answered.

Finally, we should compare the title of the article with the content of the speech. For Sasse's speech doesn't address the House of Representatives at all. And to apply how the Senate should ideally approach a problem to how the House of Representatives should,  forgets the distinction in purpose and structure of the two legislative branches. In addition, perhaps we should do something against tenets used to construct the Senate by the writers of The Constitution. Perhaps we should listen to the people to see if they think that the House sit in is a violation of principled governance. After all, and again, the self-proclaimed Senator Fix-it does not provide an answer to the question asked by the title of the article.


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To Timothy Kleiser and his blogpost that reviews a book on how Christianity should offer a counterculture for the common good. This appeared in the Gospel Coalition blog.

Though my assessment of the article is hampered by my not having read the book it is reviewing, it seems to me that the reason why many people see Christianity as 'irrelevant and extreme,' as claimed by the book being reviewed, is not fully examined by the article. For it isn't just what we have tried to impose on individuals that makes us irrelevant, it is what we have silently been complicit in which accomplishes the same. That Christianity has been furthering of sins that are a natural part of maintaining the status quo.

For a confident pluralism, the Church needs to be more libertarian regarding the personal practices and beliefs of others. At the same time, the Church needs to be front and center in the battle against the marginalization and oppression of groups of people whether they are fellow citizens or not.

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To Joe Carter and his blogpost that claims that free markets are necessary for human flourishing. This appeared in the Acton blog.

The above article only shows that logic is more even misunderstood than economics. For what is missing are terms that are well defined so that they can be measured and a domain.

For example, how do we define a 'free market'? And what does human flourishing mean and how is it measured? Do we have human flourishing if there is an average increase in wealth regardless of what else is occurring? If we put Carter's assertion in conjunction with the claim made by Donald J. Boudreaux, then human flourishing is equivalent to economic performance. But here we should realize that economic performance is only one measure of how people are doing. The economic performance of the old South relied greatly on slave labor for example. Is good economic performance aided by a slave-based economy mean that we are flourishing? Or we could also ask if there were any great empires that were built without free markets? And if the answer is none, then what is the relationship between empire and free markets?

References to the old South are pertinent here because the two nations that have seen the greatest number of people be relieved of abject poverty are also the two nations that have the most slaves: India and China. And the number of slaves for each of these nations has either become stagnant or has grown. Thus our growing free markets seem impotent in affecting slavery in comparison to how they have reduced the number of people living in abject poverty. So, do we really have human flourishing during despite how some human stakeholders in the economy are treated?

Furthermore, Carter's assertion that free markets are a necessary condition to human flourishing is nothing more than an assertion. For the way his Venn diagram states the case, he would have to prove that in every historical and present instance where we had human flourishing, we had free markets. Neither he nor the economist he quoted attempted to show this connection with a limited number of examples.

Yes, Carter wants to say that free markets are not enough to increase human flourishing, but he doesn't seem to even know how to prove his basic assertion. Instead, he quotes an expert which only shows Carter's reliance on authoritarianism.

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To Joseph Sunde and his blogpost on how McDonald’s can act as Capitalism’s community center. What is neglected is the low wages paid to McDonald’s employees which should challenge how it can become a community center for all. This appeared in the Acton blog.

We should note something else about places like McDonalds, some of the people who work there must apply for government assistance in order to survive. And they must apply for some kind of government assistance because they are not being paid enough by place McDonald's to live without it. Unlike them, those of us who are paid adequately by our employers don't need to apply for government assistance programs. So many of these programs are tied to income.

If you read free marketers, you will see how some of them deny that government assistance programs that help low wage workers are subsidies for corporations like McDonalds. Why do they deny the obvious? They say it is because the end result some government assistance programs is to drive up the pay employees must offer to entice a person to work at a particular job.

The description of these apologists is really a slight of hand. That is because much of welfare is paid based on income and income is based on what employers pay. Those with adequate incomes need to apply for fewer, if any, welfare benefits. Those with less than adequate incomes must apply for assistance. And those who apply for assistance can be divided into two groups: those who work and those who don't. And the fact that there are some who work who must apply for government assistance means that government is picking up the slack that businesses have left otherwise they would have fewer, if any, employees who could afford to invest their time in working for the business. In addition, we might ask these apologists if the increased supply of low wage workers from offshoring has offset wages companies feel they must pay low wage workers in order to entice them to work.

So the distribution of wealth in businesses like McDonald's includes some people being paid less than adequate wages so that others, particularly stockholders, can be paid more money. Then all one has to do is to look at the taxes corporations like McDonald's try to avoid paying to see how public funds are being used to subsidize McDonald's payrolls. For if McDonald's is not paying their fair share in taxes, then McDonald's is getting a free lunch from the government because of their reliance on assistance programs to pay their employees while refusing to adequately contribute to those same programs.

In the end, this article does what many articles that defend Capitalism do. They shine a spotlight on the benefits bestowed on the consumer while they try to make the low wage worker an invisible, if not nonexistent, stakeholder.





Friday, June 24, 2016

How A Christian View Of Terrorism Shows A Christian Problem In Viewing The World

On June 20th, the podcast from the Legonier Ministries' Renewing Your Mind program consisted of an interview with the deservedly, well-esteemed theologian R.C. Sproul (click here for a brief bio) called A Christian Response To Terrorism (click here for the interview and ignore the text below the interview).

This blog has reviewed Sproul before on at least one issue and has disagreed with a significant portion of what he said. The disagreements expressed in this blog should not be taken as any challenge to Sproul's many contributions to the Reformed Faith. Sproul is well-deserving of the respect and regard many from the Reformed Faith have for him. But it is issues that this blog tries to cover. And some of Sproul's views of terrorism need to be challenged.

The purpose of the interview was to provide a response in the light of the tragic mass shooting in Orlando. In short, many of Sproul's comments could be characterized as being short-sighted. And it appears that they are short-sighted because of a certain insularity that Sproul and many religiously conservative Christians suffer from or endulge in when examining the world around them. Even the connection of the Orlando shooting with Islamic terrorism shows an inadequate knowledge of the shooter's background. For as of now, there are too many factors involved to assume that the shooting was an example of Islamic terrorism.

By insularity what is meant is that the sources some religiously conservative Christians use to learn about the outside world are significantly restricted by the spiritual or ideological credentials of their sources. The result is that certain views on terrorism are inadequate and thus make it more difficult to present an adequate Christian response to it.

An example of the result of Sproul's insularity is when he states that Bush's invasion of Iraq was justified because of Iraq's participation in the training of terrorists, it is said in such a matter of fact tone it is as if that view is widely held. Now if he was referring to Iraq training terrorists who attacked America, he has a problem because such a  position is not widely held. Neither the 9-11 Commission nor the Pentagon agree with the connection between the terrorists who attacked us and Iraq (click here, there, and there again) and their views were documented over 10 years ago.

In addition to insularity, Sproul's views on attacking terrorism indicate how his political views on terrorism are governed more by an American-centricity than by the information available. For example, suppose in Sproul justifying Bush's invasion of Iraq he was referring to Iraq training terrorists per se, the question becomes so what. Here Sproul seems to forget how America has trained and supported terrorists when it supported Bin Laden et. al. during the Soviet Union's Afghanistan intervention during the 1980s or how the US supported the Contra rebels in Nicaragua as they at attacked civilian targets, which was also during the 1980s. If Bush's invasion was justified because of alleged ties between Iraq and terrorism, did Afghanistan, Nicaragua, and even the Soviet Union not have the right to attack the US back then because of our ties to terrorism? In addition, Sproul seems to not include military actions conducted by a nation's armed forces as terrorism. Was not even the American threat of Shock & Awe a terrorist threat since civilians would be killed and the intention was for Iraq to make political changes? Terrorism, according to Sproul, seems to be only what Islamic radicals do to others. 

Sproul's American-centric approach to the subject of terrorism continues as he neglects to mention the reasons why terrorist groups like Al-Qaeda attacked us on 9-11. He explicitly stated that they attacked us in order to change our culture as if what they objected to was our culture. The real reasons for the attacks are not hidden. Reasons include the sanctions we helped enforced on Iraq that were, in conjunction with our destroying Iraq's infrastructure during the first Persian Gulf War, responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. Reasons include our imbalanced support for Israel's Occupation against the Palestinians. Reasons include our presence in the Middle East and, in particular, our support for Saudi Arabia when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. We should note here that neither Kuwait nor Saudi Arabia agreed with the need to invade Iraq in 2003. We should also note that the US has supported a number of brutal dictatorships in the region. Those reasons could never justify the 9-11 attacks, but they do help explain why we were attacked. And we certainly were not attacked because we had the freedom to choose between rooting for the Red Sox or an evil empire.

Likewise Spoul's explanation of Radical Islam where Radical Islam is explained as being more consistent with the fundamentals of Islam itself shows insularity, only this is of a Christian kind. For when most religiously conservative Christians compare Christianity with Islam, they only compare today's versions; they neglect to mention Christianity's violent past such as how Christianity often rode in on the back of Western Civilization's expanding empires. In addition, with Sproul's belief that violence is one of the roots of Islam, it appears that he has never asked the peaceful Muslims in his community why they are peaceful though their religion, according to him, is rooted in violence. When Christians criticize Islam for its history of violence, they never include the fact that Islam is actually a religion of justice and that one of Muhammad's main concerns was the elimination of injustices he saw in his area of the world. Certainly that does not excuse Muslims from much of the violence they have taken part in, but it does give us a context for the violence. And while Sproul mentions the part of the Koran that says to kill the infidel, he neglects to mention the parts that say to live in peace with those who wish to live in peace.

Sproul's insularity indicates that he has succumbed to tribalism. Sproul has shown that he is perhaps tied too closely to Western Civilization, America, Conservative Christianity, and conservative political ideology to look some of the subjects discussed objectively. This insularity prevents Sproul from developing a wider perspective and a view of Islam and the world's problem with terrorism that is characterized by fairness. And such distracts from the positive remarks he made during the interview such as when he talked about a Christian's duty to help all who are in need regardless of the groups one may belong to.

This falling to tribalism where group loyalty trumps principles and morals so that what is right and wrong depends on who does what to whom is a temptation that is faced by all who belong to groups. In other words, it is a temptation that is faced by all of us and none of us have never given in to it. But at the same time, tribalism, along with the love of money, are the two human weaknesses that are destroying the world today. So while we can no longer tolerate either weakness, we must understand why others not only submit to it, but embrace it. We must understand in order to battle these weaknesses because all of us are giving in to these weaknesses at various times.