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1 But false prophets also appeared among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. 2 Many will follow their indecent behavior, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; 3 and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep..
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Tuesday, October 4, 2016

Election Bullies And Debate Audiences

In the last two weeks, I've encountered two different kinds of Clinton supporters. The first kind are voting for Clinton because she best represents them. And though I disagree with them on what should represent them, I respect their choice. The other kind of Clinton supporters are what I would call 'election bullies.' Why the moniker? It is because in trying to persuade those of us who are planning to vote for third party candidates, they try to manipulate us by shaming or insulting us to vote for Hillary. Such is an authoritarian move.

I found 2 examples of such bullies while on the internet. While one such bully derogatorily labels anyone who would dare criticize Clinton while heavily filtering the information they say supports their candidate, the other kind of bully wants third party voters to be blamed if Trump is elected. This is nothing more than a repeat of the way how some Democrats treated Nader supporters in 2000. But what if instead of blaming Nader for Bush's election, people were encouraged to continue to vote for Nader or other third party candidates in 2004? If that happened, we might not have to choose between Hillary and Trump today. For not only could we possibly have more than 2 viable candidates to vote for by now, both the Republican and/or Democratic Parties might have produced better candidates this year.


Currently, both of our major political parties take many of their voters for granted. The Democratic takes minorities and political liberals for granted much in the same way that the Republican Party takes religiously conservative Christians for granted. And just as the Democratic Party has more often than not failed to keep their promises to minorities and liberals, people from these groups often  feel compelled to vote for the Democrats simply because the Democratic candidates are not Republicans. And likewise, even though Republicans have failed to successfully advance the conservative agenda on some key social issues like abortion or reducing federal spending, many conservatives automatically vote Republican because Republican candidates are not Democrats. Here we should note that for as long as either major political party can take significant blocks of voters for granted, they don't have to prove themselves by performing well while they are in office.

Thus, I am voting for a third party candidate for president because neither of the candidates from the two major parties represent me. In addition, it seems that the Republican and Democratic candidates have also quit trying to represent the voters they say they represent. 

Currently I plan on voting for Jill Stein. I am doing so despite a few glaring flaws she has exhibited as a candidate. The reason why I am voting for her is because of the direction she wants to pursue if she is elected. Yes, Trump knows business to an extent and, like George W. H. Bush was, Hillary is the résumé candidate. But neither of them have earned my vote. Why? It is because, IMO, both, in their own individual ways, want to pursue neoconservative foreign policies and neoliberal economic policies. And just one set of these policies, let alone both, are very destructive and thus immoral. So neither Trump's "tell it like it is" behavior nor Hillary's experience represent me as a voter. And if the Democrats really wanted to get me to support their stop-Trump campaign, they would have nominated someone who really represents me. I refuse to vote for Hillary because she is not Trump.


The second part of this post deals with debate audiences. We should note that Trump really did not behave any differently in the Republican primary debates as he did in his debate against Clinton. And yet, he did not get the same results in his debate against Hillary as he got in the primary debates. Some have attributed the difference solely to Hillary's political savvy. But in all honesty, we should note that the first person to predict Trump's failure in his debate with Hillary was Jeb Bush. We should remember that Bush repeatedly told Trump that he could not insult his way into the Presidency.  The public perception of Bush after he gave those warnings was negative, but Bush's warnings came true. Why? The difference could at least partially be explained by noting that the audience for the first debate with Hillary was far more diverse than the audiences were for the primary debates. What a difference an audience makes!

For Trump to compete with Hillary for the Presidency, he will have to be able to broaden his appeal to more than just disgruntled, anti-establishment conservatives. And such appears to be another episode of Mission Impossible given Trump's record. It was those conservatives who could either laugh with Trump when he spoke inappropriately or, because they were angry at the Republican establishment, they could ignore him. Trump's problem now is that with the general election comes a more diverse audience. And with a more diverse audience comes an intolerance for what got him through the primaries.


However, Trump's past and present record of actions and statements provides another problem for the nation during both the remaining debates and the rest of the campaign. That problem is that the bar that Trump sets for Hillary to succeed is rather low. And thus the more Trump messes up, the better Hillary looks because she is not Trump. And such shows how she can take our votes for granted.


 

Wednesday, July 22, 2015

Comments Which Conservatives Block From Their Blogs For July 22, 2015

July 17

To Steve Hays' angry July 16 comment responding to my comment where he leveled a number of accusations against me. This was part of the discussion in the blogpost about the Wheaton staffer who changed her position on same-sex marriage. This appeared in Denny Burk's blog.

Steve,
It seems that you are venting more than making grounded statements. The personal accusations against me regarding how I pray or my preference for having the homosexual lobby bully people or saying that I thank God I am not like Denny because I belong to the Socialist Party USA are totally without grounds. Find the quotes that support those accusations. Also, just a technical note, I actually belong to the Socialist Workers Party, not the Socialist USA Party.

Second, there is nothing wrong with how I have referred to that parable. That parable provides an equal opportunity warning. And I use that parable to disagree with Marx's solution of relying on a proletariat dictatorship to usher in the classless society as much as I use it on Christians who want to feel superior to those from the LGBT community. BTW, I disagree with Marx there because such is an externalization of sin where Marx seems to be saying that only the Bourgeoisie sin. I prefer Kautsky who recognized that any group can be oppressive.

As for the issue you identified, you present a similar case as was presented in the defense of Jim Crow. This is where we disagree. I believe that the state has a right to defend the equality of all its members.  And so the question becomes this: Can we use religious beliefs as a grounds for not treating people from certain groups as equals? That was one of the questions asked by some defending Jim Crow only their target was nonWhites? Note that freedom of speech isn't the issue. And freedom of association does not mean that businesses can discriminate otherwise you have defended parts of Jim Crow.

In addition, what some seem to be missing is the impact that denying business services to a group can cause in a Capitalist society. When you have a business, you have agreed to an implied social contract of serving all who legally ask for your services.  Why is that a contract in a Capitalist economy? Because the majority of goods and services can only be provided by businesses in such an economy. And if a business could deny a group services for the reasons you cited, then all could and such leads to the marginalization and even the experience of the deprivation of goods and services.

BTW, I wasn't changing the subject with Romans 7. You talked about sins occurring when there are lapses, that isn't the only time. And I understand those who are advocating the acceptance of homosexuality. What I am saying here is that we have to find new ways of calling homosexuality sin that do not include denying the equality of those from the LGBT community.

And no, I don't have a single test for those who are Christian. I don't regard those who disagree with me on same-sex marriage for religious reasons as nonChristians. I believe they are wrong on this issue as much as they believe I am wrong. But never have I doubted their Christianity. What I have doubted is their consistency just as I see inconsistency in myself when I sin.

And no, I don't agree with any group calling what the Bible says hate speech. I fully disagree with the court decision in England against a street preach who  was convicted of causing emotional harm to members of the LGBT community simply by reading Leviticus.

Finally, when we say such and such a lifestyle is very destructive or self-destructive and cite the destructive actions that have followed. It is our responsibility to examine why such people committed such self-destructive actions. For I see those same self-destructive actions in heterosexuals while I don't see those self-destructive actions in most, if not all, of the people I know from the LGBT community.

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To R. Scott Clark and his blogpost quote asserting that opposing same-sex marriage is not the same as opposing interracial marriage. This appeared in Heidelblog.

Same-sex marriage does not have to be identical to interracial marriage for comparing the opposition to both. There can be significant differences between the two. And yet, opposing same-sex marriage can be comparable to opposing interracial marriage.

That opposing both have been based on the Scriptures makes opposing both comparable. And while the scriptural defense for justifying same-sex marriage is completely inadequate while the scriptural defense for practicing interracial marriage is more than adequate, opposing both can still be similar enough. In either case, opposing both seems to have a personal basis in bigotry. That same-sex marriage is not justified by the Scriptures does not imply that it cannot be practiced in society, especially a society that is based on religious freedom.

And using the natural law argument for prohibiting same-sex marriage fails for two reasons. First, there is no mandate for enforcing every part of natural law otherwise Christians would still demand that homosexuality itself be a criminal offense. Second, though in terms of truth there is only one natural law, there is more than one version of natural law in society. As I have mentioned here before, homosexuality exists with benefits in 1,500 species. So when a nonChristian looks at natural law, he/she might be using the example of what occurs in nature as the rule for natural law.

Using common law and tradition to forever rule out same-sex marriage fails because we first have broken with tradition before and to allow for common law and tradition to forever rule out same-sex marriage is more authoritarian than democratic and promotes and a tyranny of tradition. In addition, much of common law and tradition assumes a particular set of religious beliefs.

Yes, opposition to interracial marriage was insidious. But what do you call it when you unnecessarily force unbelievers to abide by your religious code?

The problem here is that our opposition to same-sex marriage in society fails on multiple levels. First, it attempts to exact a measure of discrimination against and marginalization of those from the LGBT community. Second, because other Christians sense the unfairness of our discrimination, it forces them to think that homosexuality must be biblically supported in order to escape the consequence of practicing discrimination. And finally, while nonChristians witness our discrimination against those in the LGBT community and our silence over sins of economic exploitation, destruction to the environment, and our penchant for war and militarism, we give them stumbling blocks to listening to the Gospel in the first place.


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July 20

To Stephen Hale and his July 20 comment describing my previous comment as a 'sort of geopolitical socialization engineering' and that I told Christians they ought to 'consider contemporary political views when reading the Bible.' This was part of the discussion attached to the blogpost on what Christians can do about same-sex marriage. This appeared in the Gospel Coalition website.

Stephen,
No, but they should consider societal issues of equality and fairness as well as economic issues before advocating legislation or promoting/opposing Supreme Court decisions both of which determine the rules for our society. We should preach the Scriptures, not make them the law of the land.


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To R. Scott Clark and his blogpost quote on fetal tissue. This appeared in Heidelblog.

We live in a society in which people are regarded as disposable objects. So how can we expect society to treat the unborn, whose humanity is hidden by its location, with the human dignity they deserve? 


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 To Joseph Sunde and his blogpost about Jeb Bush's call for American workers to work longer hours. This appeared in the Acton blog.

The message of both Jeb Bush and Joseph Sunde, the writer of this blogpost, is that Americans should submit themselves as slaves to the competitive needs of business. After all, according to Joseph Sunde, our ancestors worked longer and harder hours than we currently work. But if our ancestors are setting the standard for our work ethic, we would also employ abusive child labor and slavery. We should also be willing to accept the labor standards that caused people to die on the job such as when the transcontinental railroad was built. And while Sunde complains that we are not making workers like we use to as evidenced by how today's workers complain, realize that our ancestors eventually got fed up with the poverty wages, the health threatening working environments, and the long hours so they organized and went on strike. Now how is it that Sunde can conclude that yesteryear's workers' would not complain like today's

Why does Jeb want us to work longer hours when, according to Forbes, Americans ranked 12th in 2013 and 10th in 2014 in the average number of hours worked per worker? We could answer that question with a famous movie quote: 'Follow the money.' After all, who would benefit more from the the sacrifices workers would have to make by increasing their hours? Would it be the workers or the top x%? A possible clue to the answer to that question can be found in asking this: Who benefited the most from the recovery of the 2008 economic collapse?












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